Episode 85 - Losers are Winners: The Job From Hell with Nick Schiffer - Failures, Red Flags, & Hard Lessons
Nick Schiffer brings the heat in this Losers are Winners episode, sharing the messy behind-the-scenes stories that rarely make it to Instagram. From takeover projects gone wild to contracts that nearly cost big, this episode shows how failure can become the best business coach in the room. It is sharp, funny, painfully relatable, and loaded with takeaways for builders who want fewer surprises and stronger systems.
Episode 84 - Losers are Winners: Karissa Dunham on Failure, Family, & Finding Your Rhythm
In this Losers Are Winners episode, Karissa Dunham opens up about the messy middle of running a business, raising a blended family of seven kids, and learning that “balance” might just be a moving target with a bad attitude. She talks about failure, leadership, fitness, golf, and why making memories with family matters just as much as making the next deal happen. It is a fun, thoughtful reminder that success is not just about working harder, but about being present when it counts.
Episode 83 - Losers Are Winners: How Sterling Lock Survived 7 Marathons in 7 Days
What does it take to run seven marathons in seven days on seven continents? A little insanity, a lot of discipline, and probably more anti-inflammatories than anyone wants to admit. In this Losers are Winners episode, Sterling Lock shares the highs, the breakdowns, the brutal physical setbacks, and the mindset that carried him through one of the toughest endurance challenges on the planet. It’s equal parts inspiring, intense, and a great reminder that leadership starts with how you handle pain when nobody’s coming to save you.
Episode 82 - Losers Are Winners: Good Clients, Bad Fits, & the Courage to Say No with Tim Rascher
This episode is all about client communication—what works, what blows up, and what should make a builder pause. Mark talks with Tim Rascher about how he spots “orange flags” earlier (especially when clients want budget and value-engineering talks behind closed doors). It’s a quick, witty listen that’ll make builders rethink boundaries, expectations, and how to keep the whole team rowing in the same direction.
Episode 81 - Losers Are Winners: The Healthy House Checklist with Trapper Roderick
In this Losers Are Winners episode, Mark and Trapper Roderick dig into what’s changing fast in high-performance, wellness-forward homes. They connect the dots between building science and real-life health: cleaner air, better water, smarter ventilation, and materials that don’t make your body quietly revolt. They also get into the fun stuff—saunas, cold plunges, steam showers, and gyms with the best views in the house (because misery loves a basement…until it doesn’t). Come for the wellness trends, stay for the mechanical-room truth bombs and the accidental dad-joke chaos.
Episode 80 - Losers Are Winners: Why Quitting Was the Smartest Move Luciano Patiño Ever Made
In this Losers Are Winners episode, Mark sits down with Luciano Patiño of Elliano Design to talk about failure… and how it turned out to be the best gift of his career. From walking away from a business he co-founded to building his design firm with a true CEO mindset, this one is packed with real talk. We dive into business coaching, identity, collaboration, and the power of asking for help. If you’ve ever wondered whether your “loss” is actually setting you up for a bigger win, this episode is for you.
Episode 76 - Losers Are Winners: How Risky Moves and Epic Mistakes Fueled David Werschay’s Success Stories
In this episode, Mark Williams sits down with David Werschay from Werschay Homes to swap stories about the ups and downs of running a building business. They talk about tricky clients, learning the hard way through mistakes, and how "loser" moments can actually end up being big wins in disguise. It's full of laughs, real-life lessons, and a reminder that failing forward is just part of the journey.
Episode 73 - Losers Are Winners: When Your Dream Job Ghosts You… and It’s a Gift in Disguise with Trapper Roderick
In this Losers Are Winners episode, Mark sits down with Trapper Roderick—a fifth-generation builder with a past life in custom suits (yes, really). They dig into lessons from Trapper’s first business (spoiler: he sold suits to NFL coaches), the power of partnerships, and why giving up control might just be the best business move you make. From equity missteps to $10M deals falling apart, this episode is a masterclass in learning the hard way—and coming out better for it.
Episode 71 - Loser are Winners: How a $5,000 Toilet Changed My Life—And Made My Kids Laugh Hysterically
In this Loser are Winners episode, Mark takes us through his funny and surprisingly eventful quest to get a fancy Toto bidet toilet installed at home—trust us, it’s way more complicated (and entertaining) than you’d think! He chats about family debates, high-tech bathroom features, and some wellness-focused home upgrades coming to his Mysa Hus project. If you’ve ever battled over a home improvement project with your family or just love a good laugh about everyday life, this one’s for you!
Episode 70 - Losers are Winners: The Costly Confusion That Nearly Sank My Business
In this Losers are Winners episode of The Curious Builder, Mark keeps it real about how builders can actually keep more of the money they earn—mainly by understanding the difference between markup and margin (spoiler: he wishes he’d known sooner!). He shares honest stories about lessons learned, why it's so important to know your numbers, and how sticking to your value can lead to happier clients and better builds. It’s a super practical, down-to-earth chat packed with advice for anyone wanting to run a smarter, more profitable building business.
Episode 69 - Losers are Winners: Losing the Unicorn: What I Learned When My VA Quit
In this episode of The Curious Builder Podcast - Losers Are Winners, Alyssa Abbott of Olive and Vine Socials joins Mark to talk through the real challenges of building a business you love while raising kids. We talk about everything from from hiring mistakes to breakthrough systems and finally building a team that works. Alyssa shares how loosing her “unicorn” VA was the best (and most stressful) thing that happened this year and why structure and trust matter more than sparkle. It’s the open and honest pep talk every entrepreneur needs. Enjoy!
Episode 61 - Losers are Winners: Burnout, Boundaries, & the Wake-Up Call That Changed Everything with Tyler Grace
Builder. Dad. Almost burnout casualty. Tyler Grace joins Mark for a raw conversation on why “doing what you love” can still land you in the ER. They dive into stress, ego, profitability, and how Tyler finally drew a line between life and business. Come for the honesty, stay for the dad jokes—and leave with a better plan for your own business sanity.
Episode 60 - Losers are Winners: From Massive Debt to Entrepreneurial Wisdom with Paul Krumrich
In this Losers are Winners episode of The Curious Builder Podcast, Mark Williams sits down with Paul Krumrich for a super honest chat about the rollercoaster of being an entrepreneur. Paul opens up about his own big mistakes, like taking on risky debt and being maybe a little too honest with his team during rough times. They both talk about why willpower matters more than skills, the funny (and not so funny) side of failure, and how learning from flops is actually the key to winning in business.
Episode 59 - Losers are Winners: How Admitting Failure Built a Million-Dollar Business with Mike Weaver
In this episode, Mark sits down with his friend Mike Weaver for a really honest chat about learning from mistakes—both at work and in life. Mike opens up about a big blunder early in his career that taught him why being upfront with clients matters so much, and he also shares his incredible journey losing 170 pounds (seriously impressive!). It’s a fun, down-to-earth conversation with plenty of laughs, hard-earned wisdom, and tips for turning your biggest fails into wins.
Episode 57 - Losers Are Winners: The Cost of Hiring the Wrong Person with Adam Copenhaver
Hiring mistakes, financial setbacks, and communication misfires—yep, Adam’s got the receipts. In this candid conversation. Mark talks with Adam Copenhaver of CopeGrand Homes about hiring wins, hiring woes, and what happens when your culture isn’t strong enough to catch a bad fit. From cultural index tests to writing painful checks, Adam opens up about what it takes to build a resilient team—and how building with your twin brother might just be the ultimate hack.
Episode 54 - Losers Are Winners: How a Million Dollar Home Almost Ruined Me & What I Learned From It
In this Q&A, Mark gets candid about a major setback during the 2008 recession, sharing how a failed spec home taught him some hard life and business lessons. Thanks to some wise words from his dad, he learned not to fear failure and how bouncing back can set you up for even bigger wins down the road. It’s a real and relatable listen for anyone dealing with ups and downs in their career!
Episode 53 - Losers Are Winners: Boundaries, Burnout, & Big Decisions with Nathan Marsala
Ever bitten off more than you could build? Nathan Marsala has. In this candid convo, Mark and Nathan unpack the cost of chasing the wrong projects, the lessons hidden in late-night site visits, and how Nathan’s dashboard (and daughter) helped him recalibrate. It’s one of those real, raw chats that hits hard—especially if you’re building a business and a family at the same time.
Episode 52 - Losers Are Winners: Finding Success Through Setbacks with Caleb MacDonald
Lets turn some big loses into some big wins. In this Losers Are Winners episode, Mark and Caleb MacDonald swap stories about their early business blunders—from failed snowboard sales to endless house cleaning gigs—and how those moments shaped them into better builders. Caleb gets real about learning from those flops, staying patient, and why having solid contracts (and good people around you) makes all the difference.
Episode 51 - Losers Are Winners: When to Walk Away & Trust Your Gut with Allyson Case
Sometimes “just get through it” is the worst advice ever. In this Losers Are Winners episode, Mark sits down with Allyson Case of Integro Builders to unpack what happens when you ignore your gut, protect the wrong people, and stick with a project that should’ve ended ages ago. From bad architects to bad breakups (and the clients caught in the middle), it’s a brutally honest peek at how one of Chicago’s top builders learned when to call it — and why consistency is kinder than favors.
Episode 50 - Losers Are Winners: Hiring, Firing & Keeping the Right People with Katie Kath
Welcome to Fail Club, where losers really are winners—eventually. Mark kicks off this new series with designer and builder Katie Kath to swap war stories about team culture fails, the cost of ignoring your gut, and the power of doing the scary stuff anyway. It’s unfiltered, funny, and surprisingly motivating for any builder, remodeler, or business owner who’s learned the hard way that perfection is a myth—and sometimes, a lawsuit is just tuition for the next level.