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Episode 175 - Stop Underpricing Your Work: Etinosa Agbonlahor on Money Conversations Nobody Wants to Have

Most business owners underprice their work not because the math is wrong but because their fears show up in the numbers, and Etinosa Agbonlahor has built an entire firm around fixing exactly that. She and Mark talk through the psychology of pricing, how to have money conversations with the people who matter most before it becomes an emergency, and why a blank price tag on a truly unique home might actually work against you. It is one of the most fascinating episodes in recent memory, and the wine study alone is worth the full hour.

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Episode 174 - Don Forsman on Why Precision Beats Perfection Every Single Time

Don Forsman has 45 years of building homes and is currently building his own, which means he has never been more dangerous in a conversation about never evers and always always. He and Mark cover why you can't blame the drywaller for a bad HVAC vent, how external insulation brought wood siding back from the dead, and why precision is the goal and perfection is a trap. This one is basically a masterclass disguised as two guys talking in a sunroom.

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Episode 173 - Billy Beson on Bowling Alleys, Billionaires, & Building for 100 Years

Billy Beson walked into a million dollar hotel pitch with nothing but a museum poster, told the client he could make the place look like a million bucks for a million bucks, and got the job anyway. He and Mark spend an hour trading stories about Minnesota's quietest billionaires, 46,000 square foot homes with bowling alleys and car simulators, and why designing toward feelings instead of materials is the real secret to a legendary career. This one will make you laugh, make you think, and make you wish you had been a fly on the wall at every dinner party Billy's ever thrown.

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Episode 172 - Design NEVER EVERs: Good Design Outlasts Trends

PLAAD's Mark Stankey and Matthew Byers join Mark for a deep dive into what actually makes a home authentic, and it turns out the answer has a lot more to do with composition than cost. They talk through never evers like windows to nowhere, soffit returns gone wrong, and why a quiet, well composed exterior beats a gable smashed mansion every time. Stick around for the courtyard story that proves the best design lessons sometimes come straight from the client.

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Episode 171 - Taylor Hall O'Brien Makes AI Nervous and Homes Look Incredible

Forget renderings, Taylor Hall O'Brien is making the case for real light, real rooms, and real collaboration in an industry that AI is circling like a hawk. He and Mark talk through the art of consistent storytelling across a photo gallery, how Taylor built relationships with top editors one Instagram follow at a time, and why being easy to work with matters more than being the most talented person in the room. It's part photography lesson, part business strategy session, and part really lovely conversation over Diet Coke at sunrise.

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Episode 170 - Enough Is Enough: What Two Books Taught Mark About Time and Money

Six months into the Smile Tour, Mark parks himself inside Mysa Hus with a heavily highlighted copies of Buy Back Your Time and Psychology of Money, and he has a lot of thoughts about money, time, and why your inbox should not be your boss. He hits the big ideas from both Dan Martell and Morgan Housel, connects them to real moments from his career, and reminds everyone that a $10 million company was not built on $10 tasks. Consider this your permission slip to hire help, go to bed at 8:30, and stop letting your calendar run your life.

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Episode 169 - Mark Built His Soul Into a House: The Story Behind Mysa Hus

Documentary filmmaker Jude Charles came to Minnesota to flip the script and road map the emotional soul of Mysa Hus, and what started as a brand conversation turned into the deepest dive yet into why Mark built the thing in the first place. Jude's "but why does that matter to you" energy draws out stories about childhood cabins, slow mornings, and what it actually means to build a home as a personal thesis. Buckle up, this one earns every one of its 90 minutes.

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Episode 168 - The Finish Line to Mysa Hus with Melissa Oholendt

Five days before the Artisan Home Tour, Mark and Melissa Oholendt of Oho Interiors snuck away from a live photo shoot to talk about what the final stretch of Mysa Hus actually looks like — wrong-sized sectionals, a Hail Mary pass to a UK lighting CEOs, and a third-generation plumber who showed up unannounced and left with chocolate-covered strawberries. They walk through the 60-day countdown, three photo shoots with three different photographers, and what it means to build something hard with people you genuinely trust. It's raw, real, and recorded while the house is literally still being shot.

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Episode 167 - Tyler Webster on Risk, Relationships, & Why Enough Is a Moving Target

Most people don't think about what happens to their business when their one critical supplier goes down — Tyler Webster of Old Mill Building Products lived that nightmare firsthand and spent the last three years making sure it never happens again. Mark and Tyler get into the nuts and bolts of supplier diversification, why just-in-time manufacturing sounds great until a robot breaks in a brick kiln, and how the lessons from a fifth-generation Idaho potato farm shaped Tyler's entire philosophy on risk, resilience, and what it means to save for the rainy day. The bonus? Tyler's personal definition of "enough" might be the most quietly powerful answer this season.

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Episode 166 - Casey Cloward's Blueprint: Lean Business, Big Homes, & No Apologies for Charging More

Casey Cloward doesn't build the most homes, doesn't chase the biggest numbers, and isn't trying to be the loudest guy in the room — and that exact philosophy has built Raykon Construction into one of Utah's most respected custom home firms. Mark and Casey dig into what it actually means to run a lean business on purpose, why Casey treats his five project managers like five in-house general contractors, and how building his own 11,200-square-foot home — after swearing it would only be 6,000 — turned into the best financial decision of his career. There's also a running joke about two builders racing to finish their spec homes before photo day, and it's as chaotic as it sounds.

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Episode 165 - Scott Jaffa on Money, Value, & Why You Should Never Negotiate With Your Architect

Scott Jaffa is a rare breed — an architect who's also a GC with an in-house interior design team — and the way he talks about money, value, and client relationships makes it immediately clear why his clients are willing to watch a $3 million remodel quietly become a $10 million one. Mark and Scott dig into why the farm-to-table model works better than assembling a team of strangers, how Scott used a Botox analogy to shut down a client's appliance markup complaint, and why believing in your own value is the most underrated business skill nobody teaches you. This one's equal parts architecture masterclass and hard-won entrepreneurial wisdom.

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Episode 164 - No Blueprint, No Budget, No Problem: Stephanie Dailey’s Historic All-Women Build

From rallying women across the country to build the nation's first all-female built house, to turning a social media following into 50% of her business leads, Stephanie Dailey has never done things the conventional way — and it shows. Mark and Stephanie get into the real stuff: the emotional weight of watching a parent's identity become intertwined with a business they built from nothing, why more women in construction changes everything, and how losing Ron Jensen at a Contractor Coalition Summit changed the way Mark thinks about open mic night forever. Bring a tissue. Seriously.

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Episode 163 - Stop Reacting and Start Designing Your Business — Renee Bush Explains How

What does a design strategist, a former Studio McGee ops director, and a single mom entrepreneur all have in common? They're all Renee Bush, and she joined Mark for one of the most layered conversations the podcast has ever had. Mark and Renee dig into the strategy behind branding, why consistency builds trust faster than talent alone, and what it actually looks like to stop being the bottleneck in your own business. Fair warning: this one will make you want to redesign your entire client experience before the episode is even over.

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Episode 162 - The Power of Partnerships with Mike Weaver

Mike Weaver of Emser Tile isn't your average vendor — he's the guy who walks into a room and immediately starts thinking about how he can connect everyone in it to someone they haven't met yet. Mark and Mike dig into the power of partnerships, why you don't need years to build a deep business relationship, and how a single conversation with the right supplier could collapse months of cold outreach into one warm introduction. If you've ever wondered what it looks like when two people genuinely bet on each other's success, this is that conversation.

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Episode 161 - 10 People, Zero Drama: How Laura Brophy Built the Team Every Entrepreneur Wants

Laura Brophy didn't exactly take the traditional path to running a 10-person interior design firm in Newport Beach — sports medicine, upholstery shops, Dolce & Gabbana, and Restoration Hardware were all pit stops along the way. Mark sits down with Laura to dig into how she built a drama-free team, learned to stop being the bottleneck in her own business, and why her husband Rob is the spreadsheet to her vision board. They also go deep on wellness-driven design — saunas, cold plunges, bathtub comebacks, and why your home might be the most underutilized wellness tool you own.

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Episode 160 - Hot Takes Only: Wellness, Grit, & the Daily Grind Live at Sauna Camp

What do climbing Everest, finishing a 200-mile gravel race on a single speed, getting on Joe Rogan, and raising kids who actually want to hang out with you have in common? They all showed up in this live Sauna Camp panel, and the conversation did not disappoint. Mark sat down with Erin Ayala, Alex Larson, Alex Neist, and Ryan Rivard to dig into wellness, resilience, and why the boring daily grind is actually the whole game. This episode hits different when you're already sweating.

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Episode 159 - Nathan Marsala on the Big Lie Behind “Luxury” Home Building

Nathan Marsala brings the heat in this episode with a refreshing take on craftsmanship, business systems, family priorities, and why not everything labeled “luxury” actually is. The conversation moves from pre-construction and project leadership to wellness, journaling, and cutting back the noise so the important stuff can get louder. It’s equal parts builder talk, life audit, and a reminder that sometimes the smartest move is deleting a few things and grabbing a better pen.

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Episode 158 - Andrew Legge Is Turning Wool into a Building Science Powerhouse

Mark sits down with Andrew Legge of Havelock Wool for a conversation that starts with sheep and ends in the walls of a healthier home. Andrew shares how a New Zealand idea turned into a fast-growing insulation company in the U.S., why builders are slow to change, and what makes wool such a powerhouse for sound, air quality, and performance. It is smart, surprising, a little crunchy in the best way, and proof that sometimes the best building product has been standing in a pasture the whole time.

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Episode 157 - From Builder to Leader: Tyler Farrell on Scaling Smart

Tyler Farrell of Killowen Construction gets real about what it actually takes to scale a high-end construction company without losing your mind, your margins, or your people. This episode of The Curious Builder dives into budget meetings, team building, hard client conversations, and the moment Tyler stopped apologizing for expensive work. It is equal parts business therapy, builder truth serum, and reminder that great companies are built by humans, not just job sites and spreadsheets.

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Episode 156 - What Happens When Great Design Goes Off-Grid: The Backcountry Hut Story

Wilson Edgar and Michael Leckie join Mark to share how their friendship, love of the outdoors, and big-picture thinking turned into a company that is changing the way remote architecture gets built. They cover prefabrication, strategic growth, business systems, and why buying back time is not just a book title, it is a survival strategy for entrepreneurs. It is equal parts smart, inspiring, and dangerously effective at making listeners want to book a mountain getaway.

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